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    Achievement bonus and race bonus !

    Hello !

    I noticed last night that I'm supposed to have from the achievements 190 bonus attributes, but i only received 110. How I noticed this ? Before the achievement update, I had my strength and intell at 3k both and after 38 achievements, I reached 3.110, so I'm missing 80 points in each stat at this point

    About the race bonus, I changed from gnome to human to see the impact on the bonuses between races but nothing changed, its a visual bug or they are no more counted ?

    Platform : Win10 64 bit, GoogleChrome 63.0.3239.108, Flash

    Btw: Still didn't received my bonus from the light pets with the eighth one leveled to 100.
    Last edited by Shnitel; 25 December 2017, 12:20 AM.

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    #2
    1) You can only choose your race when creating the account. You cannot change it later on. Yes, you can change your avatar but it does not affect your race or class. Tested it with my account and attributes did not change.

    Races are only included to make the lore more interesting. The starting bonus of +1 on an attribute or a -2 disadvantage does not do anything later on when you have 2000 dexterity for example.

    2) What's your account and server?
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      #3
      Originally posted by Leander View Post
      1) You can only choose your race when creating the account. You cannot change it later on. Yes, you can change your avatar but it does not affect your race or class. Tested it with my account and attributes did not change.

      Races are only included to make the lore more interesting. The starting bonus of +1 on an attribute or a -2 disadvantage does not do anything later on when you have 2000 dexterity for example.

      2) What's your account and server?
      Account : Shnitel, RO1.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Shnitel View Post
        Before the achievement update, I had my strength and intell at 3k both and after 38 achievements, I reached 3.110, so I'm missing 80 points in each stat at this point
        So you didn't have before the change any medals with dungeons, fights and so on? because they also gave you +stats.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Wasi View Post
          So you didn't have before the change any medals with dungeons, fights and so on? because they also gave you +stats.
          I had all of them on gold, but i tried to figure it out if they are matched with some of the achievements, but still its a big gap between them.

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            #6
            first of all happy new year.

            second, if you got all eight medals on gold:
            level gold = +12 stats
            dungeon gold = +12 stats
            fights gold = +12 stats
            quest gold = +12 stats
            money gold = +12 stats
            working gold = +12 stats
            honour gold = +12 stats
            friends gold = +12 stats

            This concludes to a total sum of +96 stats.
            you say, you have a difference of 80 Stats. If we exclude the friend gold one, we have 84 stats, which you already had and which werent subtracted with the change.

            Maybe thats the solution to the problem?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Wasi View Post
              Maybe thats the solution to the problem?
              Sorry for this late notice xD I thought nobody replied to this xD I don't think that the medals are involved in this, i tried to find some achievements that could be related to them, but there are 2-3 related, I send a ticket and inform you all about this, because, i think, this is something around all servers xD if its a bug.

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                #8
                It's not a bug. As Wasi wrote, you had medals and got stats from them. Now medals are gone, so you cannot get any stats from them anymore. That means you lost 80 stats because of deleting medals. And then you received 190 stats from new achievements. The difference is 110 - and that's why you saw you gain "only" 110 stats...

                Btw each type of medal had 3 levels. Each gold medal gave 10-12 stats according to its level. There were 8 medals, so it's really possible, that you had 80 stats from them - if you had each gold medal on its lowest level...
                Last edited by Chani; 19 January 2018, 09:53 PM.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chani View Post
                  It's not a bug. As Wasi wrote, you had medals and got stats from them. Now medals are gone, so you cannot get any stats from them anymore. That means you lost 80 stats because of deleting medals. And then you received 190 stats from new achievements. The difference is 110 - and that's why you saw you gain "only" 110 stats...

                  Btw each type of medal had 3 levels. Each gold medal gave 10-12 stats according to its level. There were 8 medals, so it's really possible, that you had 80 stats from them - if you had each gold medal on its lowest level...
                  Dude, I play S&F from 2013, I had all the medals on gold and the difference is 80, I have right now 210 from achievements and only 130 in my stats, as Wasi calculated, there are still 4 stats difference to reach 80, but its not supposed that the medals has something in common with the achievements, because they are not implemented in there, like having 12 friends etc.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Shnitel View Post
                    its not supposed that the medals has something in common with the achievements, because they are not implemented in there, like having 12 friends etc.
                    Exactly. But each medal was giving bonus. That bonus dissapeared with deleting medals. Or did you think that you had nothing from them?

                    I really don't understand where you see the problem.

                    From medals you had bonus to your stats - the same way as you have bonus from new acheivements now. But because they were deleted, the bonus dissapeared with them. And because each gold medal gave you at least 10 stats and there were 8 medals you had at least 80 stats from them.

                    Well maybe you're trying to say you have more stats then you should have. Yes, that's possible. Because there was bug in achievement "Sky is the limit" so you had +5 for each (first) upgrade in blacksmith...

                    Maybe this formula helps:
                    "your stats before update" - "bonus from medals" = "your REAL stats" (3000 - 80 = 2920)
                    THEN
                    "your REAL stats" + "bonus from new achievements" = "your actual stats" (2920 + 190 = 3110 using your data from first post)
                    Last edited by Chani; 20 January 2018, 08:42 AM.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Chani View Post
                      Exactly. But each medal was giving bonus. That bonus dissapeared with deleting medals. Or did you think that you had nothing from them?

                      I really don't understand where you see the problem.

                      From medals you had bonus to your stats - the same way as you have bonus from new acheivements now. But because they were deleted, the bonus dissapeared with them. And because each gold medal gave you at least 10 stats and there were 8 medals you had at least 80 stats from them.

                      Well maybe you're trying to say you have more stats then you should have. Yes, that's possible. Because there was bug in achievement "Sky is the limit" so you had +5 for each (first) upgrade in blacksmith...

                      Maybe this formula helps:
                      "your stats before update" - "bonus from medals" = "your REAL stats" (3000 - 80 = 2920)
                      THEN
                      "your REAL stats" + "bonus from new achievements" = "your actual stats" (2920 + 190 = 3110 using your data from first post)
                      This.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Chani View Post
                        From medals you had bonus to your stats - the same way as you have bonus from new acheivements now. But because they were deleted, the bonus dissapeared with them. And because each gold medal gave you at least 10 stats and there were 8 medals you had at least 80 stats from them.

                        Well maybe you're trying to say you have more stats then you should have. Yes, that's possible. Because there was bug in achievement "Sky is the limit" so you had +5 for each (first) upgrade in blacksmith...
                        It was supposed to announced in the update, that deleting the old medals, we gonna lose the stats and for each i received 12 stats, i had them on the last level, btw the "Sky is the limit" was fixed, all the stats that i have from the achievements are exactly for 42 achievements, nothin more, beside this, its not normal to delete the stats from the old medals, because all of us worked for that medals to reach the last level, specially the one with inviting friends, i was the only one on the romanian server who had that medal on 12 stats.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Shnitel View Post
                          It was supposed to announced in the update, that deleting the old medals, we gonna lose the stats and for each i received 12 stats, i had them on the last level, btw the "Sky is the limit" was fixed, all the stats that i have from the achievements are exactly for 42 achievements, nothin more, beside this, its not normal to delete the stats from the old medals, because all of us worked for that medals to reach the last level, specially the one with inviting friends, i was the only one on the romanian server who had that medal on 12 stats.
                          Well, it's kinda logical that old medal won't influence stats anymore when they delete them. Because new players cannot achieve them. And it's not good news - so I can imagine Playa don't want to speak about it much ;-).

                          But also I guess that bonus from old medals is reason why new achievements are giving +5. So everyone active got more stats then lost...

                          Personally I don't like deleting old medals. Yes, all of them took time but mainly they showed progress for example in dungeons even for other players. Now you cannot compare yourself with others... But every change has some + and some -....

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