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    Exp is better then gold? What?!?

    I always though that gold was better until I read this thread:
    http://forum.sfgame.us/showthread.php?t=3656
    and nobody really seamed to apose him in the comments. I tried reading through it but there was just too many math terms and it was all just too much. So can someone extreamly dumb this topic down for me? Should I be going for only EXP or gold in order to gain ranks in the HoF faster? I would really appreciate it if someone would tell me, and then explain why. Thanks!
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    #2
    It depends on how you look at the problem. Basically level always beats the gold. But going only for XP will eventually be your downfall. You will loose against low level players in the arena and i guess you'll get less XP in the dungeons (i'm not 100% sure but i guess you get more XP if you beat a monster in dungeon at lower levels instead of higher ones).
    Personally i think, just like in real life, you need to keep things balanced in the game too.
    It's just like when you eat too much... you'll get sick .
    I hope this will help you with future ingame decisions.
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      #3
      Thanks!

      Your right, I think that I'll keep it balanced. For a certain amount of days I'll go for gold, and then for the next amount of days (probably in segments of 7 days) I'll go for EXP. You and Medusa (she PMed me about it) are always very helpful! Thanks so much
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        #4
        I am not gonna translate all of the postings there into english
        but we have completely done the whole calculation on what is when and how to play.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Valkyra View Post
          It depends on how you look at the problem. Basically level always beats the gold. But going only for XP will eventually be your downfall. You will loose against low level players in the arena and i guess you'll get less XP in the dungeons (i'm not 100% sure but i guess you get more XP if you beat a monster in dungeon at lower levels instead of higher ones).
          Personally i think, just like in real life, you need to keep things balanced in the game too.
          It's just like when you eat too much... you'll get sick .
          I hope this will help you with future ingame decisions.

          The XP you get for winning a dungeon is for every player level the same. A player lvl 100 or a player lvl 200 get both the same amount of xp if they beat the same dungeon

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            #6
            Originally posted by Galileo View Post
            The XP you get for winning a dungeon is for every player level the same. A player lvl 100 or a player lvl 200 get both the same amount of xp if they beat the same dungeon
            Not at dungeon 9/10. You will get more XP if you are higher.

            Level 300 for example gives you about 100 million xp (have to look later at the german board, theres a list).

            Normally you should play till level 300. You level fast. So fast, that not one Gold player can win against you. If you are level 300+, you can play your al on gold. It's the best i think

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              #7
              Thanks for all of the replys but I figured it out.

              I wanna be pretty balanced so I decided to go 7 days of only farming gold, (will start on a Gold boost weekend) and then switch to 7 days of only EXP after that (will land on EXP boost weekends) I got it all figured out!
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                #8
                Originally posted by Valkyra View Post
                It depends on how you look at the problem. Basically level always beats the gold. But going only for XP will eventually be your downfall. You will loose against low level players in the arena and i guess you'll get less XP in the dungeons (i'm not 100% sure but i guess you get more XP if you beat a monster in dungeon at lower levels instead of higher ones).
                Personally i think, just like in real life, you need to keep things balanced in the game too.
                It's just like when you eat too much... you'll get sick .
                I hope this will help you with future ingame decisions.
                exp from dungeons doesn't change no matter what level you are but the effect if has on leveling does .

                example getting 50,000 exp from a dungeon at level 40 is better then getting that same exp at say level 100.

                As for what is better exp of gold I go exp all the way I have a toon on s3 US that is lvl 365 and I go from #1 to #4 depending on how my questing goes and if I do arena. on the flip side there is a player on s4 and s8 that goes gold quests. he is tough for his level from what I recall back b4 I had retired on both servers but over all I beat him a little more then I lost. you have to remember that you earn more gold the higher level you are from guard duty and quests.
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                  #9
                  Here the list of the xp you get with the dungeons:

                  Dungeon: exp:
                  1 1287
                  2 1785
                  3 2395
                  4 3146
                  5 4050
                  6 2124
                  7 6412
                  8 7909
                  9 9631
                  10 11652
                  11 13952
                  12 16557
                  13 19539
                  14 22893
                  15 22652
                  16 30909
                  17 35642
                  18 40886
                  19 46757
                  20 53228
                  21 60343
                  22 68234
                  23 76872
                  24 86309
                  25 96706
                  26 108013
                  27 120287
                  28 133734
                  29 148282
                  30 163994
                  31 181085
                  32 199497
                  33 163994
                  34 240784
                  35 263817
                  36 288496
                  37 315135
                  38 343618
                  39 374041
                  40 406744
                  41 441608
                  42 478738
                  43 518518
                  44 560797
                  45 605700
                  46 653687
                  47 704509
                  48 758451
                  49 815853
                  50 876584
                  51 940791
                  52 1009041
                  53 1081088
                  54 1157092
                  55 1237696
                  56 1322625
                  57 1412064
                  58 1506706
                  59 1606255
                  60 1710914
                  61 1821461
                  62 1937541
                  63 2059369
                  64 2187846
                  65 2322552
                  66 2463717
                  67 2612278
                  68 2767832
                  69 2930646
                  70 3101774
                  71 3280797
                  72 3467701
                  73 3663979
                  74 3868959
                  75 4082943
                  76 4307201
                  77 4541147
                  78 4785109
                  79 5040468
                  80 5306545
                  81 5583708
                  82 5873522
                  83 6175189
                  84 6489101
                  85 6816906
                  86 7157815
                  87 8070081
                  88 9081081
                  89 11412835
                  90 exp stufenabhängig
                  91 12751538
                  92 14222021
                  93 15824529
                  94 17581974
                  95 19491852
                  96 21576743
                  97 23839326
                  98 26302843
                  99 28966329
                  100 31826139
                  101 34985806
                  102 38369989
                  103 42016588
                  104 45958126
                  105 50191950
                  106 54764113
                  107 59666036
                  108 64942539
                  109 70595045
                  110 76669139
                  111 83158305
                  112 90125436
                  113 97556858
                  114 105514978
                  115 113997992
                  116 123067419
                  117 132712488
                  118 143018630
                  119 153964246
                  120 165631756
                  121 178017293
                  122 191202824
                  123 205171015
                  124 220033230
                  125 235758967
                  126 251935897
                  127
                  128
                  129
                  130

                  For example with dungeon 90: If you are level 380 (dungeon 126) you'll get 251.935.897 xp. Thats really nice. But wait till level 380 isn't good.

                  I made this dungeon with level 300 (only for a challenge). This was very good

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                    #10
                    Ah, nermind.
                    We´ll just show them that is does work that way once we jump over the 300
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                      #11
                      So, I stumbled on this a few months ago, and decided to give XP hardcore a try... I was around lvl 35 at the time

                      In the last 2 months, I spent 4 days farming gold, when it was Gold event, and burning 10 mushrooms a day (I save them just for gold / exp events, no cash spent on the game)

                      The rest of the time I play for XP only (or the occassional shard, key etc)

                      Result:
                      Scout: lvl 98, Base Dex: 762, Con: 752, Luck 550
                      Warrior: lvl 96, Base Str: 760, Con 750, Luck 540

                      EDIT: Last weekend I made around 450k a day, taking my Base stats from 630 to 750

                      Back when I was lvl 35, I joined a guild, they were mostly lvl 60-70, but they were kind enough to take me in. Today I overtook the highest level player by 500k exp, so it will be a day or two before we have a level difference...

                      Also got my book of meticulousness up, around 70%, still working on it, so it adds up...

                      Needless to say, XP trumps Gold, at least for now...
                      Last edited by Ctrl_Alt_Delete_F4; 21 September 2016, 01:22 AM. Reason: Edit:

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                        #12
                        Yes for at least a couple reason.

                        1) higher your level more gold you get from quests and guard duty.

                        2) each level you gain you get more HP: con*5*(level+1) for warriors it is * 4 for scouts and *2 for mages.

                        Also good work keep it up and have fun.
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                          #13
                          Full exp (besides gold event weekends) till level 375. Then switch to full gold. At least till they introduce a new update in the game which could alter the balance.

                          Follow the above rule if you are shroomer, if not switch to gold at 350. Stats = Main stat always at double base points than constitution, the off-stats should be stopped when they reach 5mil cost.

                          You're welcome
                          Last edited by GeorgeKen; 21 September 2016, 08:11 PM.
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                            #14
                            More XP = more levels = more gold. Real simple.

                            As for people saying you lose out to others if you go full XP... simply not true. Even if you lose on PvP, you will quickly outmatch them via your higher level. PvE is always easy after level 10 (I've never actually lost, and always worked full XP).

                            The actual "smart" XP method I know of is this:
                            - quests appear in 1,2,3,4 "slot" times ( eg with 50% mount : 2:30, 5:00, 7:30, 10:00 duration)
                            - you should know roughly how much XP per slot is good for your level by experience

                            Then either do the longest quest that has better XP than your average (if available), or the shortest quest available.

                            Eg if you normally get ~100,000 XP / slot and have the option for a 10 min quest giving you 500,000 it's a no brainer. If however your options are all ~50,000 XP/slot, take the shortest one to cut your losses.

                            Do note that (it used to be) every 25 levels you get a bump down on how many XP you get per slot.
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                              #15
                              I play xp for the first 20 levels then I switch to gold.
                              I have a really high rank and in level 152 I beat players on levels 190-200 easily.
                              I get more dungeons because I upgrade stats so much => dungeon wins=xp
                              So I think gold is a pretty good tactic for non-shroomers
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