Questions About Item Rune Bonuses

[Rhythmite]

Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere but I couldn't see anything like this.
I'd appreciate it if someone could answer a question about how the rune bonuses work, as I've got +39% gold bonus from quests and I can't see it making any difference.
1. Do you have to have the items equipped for the bonus to work? Or is being in the back pack enough (if the latter that might explain why i see no difference when comparing).

So my quest giver has three quests offing different gold rewards:
I 453,696
II 890,573
III 1,263,788

THe gold reward for each quest doesn't change if I equip or unequip the gear with the gold bonuses on.
Final reward for completing quest III 1,390,166 so roughly 10% over the original advertised reward, but I can't see this is related to the rune bonus since that is at 39%. So at what point does the rune bonus get factored in?

[david4244]

It works fine for me.
I have the whole 50% bonus (+10% gold bonus from witch scroll in the ring)

So maximum i'm getting 10m + 5m + 1,5m = 16,500,000 GOLD per quests.

Ps.: You do have to equip the items, it doesn't work if it's in your inventory.

[Rhythmite]

SO what am I doing wrong then?
I switch into my best gear first thing to do dungeons, Demon Portal and Guild portal, then switch to my bonus gear to do my quests for the day, but I'm not seeing the bonus reflected in the rewards.

[david4244]

Which version are you using? (If it's still the old version, not the remastered, i can imagine bugs, tho you can't even enter the arena menager in the old version so i assume you are using the remastered)

On top of this, after switching to gold gear, not sure but guess the already loaded quests won't change, but the next quests should be giving more gold for sure.

Are you reaching the 10m gold cap per quests btw? Cuz it's harder to tell the difference if you are low level and getting ~900k golds only per quests. Compared to me, cuz w/o the gold bonus items i can't pass the 10m (11m with witch scroll) per quest rewards, meanwhile with them on, i'm definitely getting more than 10m.

[Valkyra]

You have to equip the items with bonus before you start questing and don't change gears untill you finish the quest at least. As david4244 stated the best way to calculate is to find a quest with 10 mil reward.
I explained myself in the next post. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[Rhythmite]

That's pretty much what I've been doing. Equip bonus gear prior to doing first quest and leave it on for all questing, and until the following day to start with portals and dungeons, then back into bonus gear to repeat.
Have tried various permutations only putting gear worth 10% on or 20% on always the same I only get a 10% gold bonus.
However thanks for your comments, still can't see that it's working for me - but more likely I'm doing something daft! Will find a 10m reward quest and test the proposition again and then post back.
Should probably add I'm playing remastered through PC, have also tried it across multiple characters on different worlds and the same thing is replicated.

[Strider]

Take a snapshot of your stats BEFORE and AFTER questing with your normal gear

Next day do the same with your bonus gear

See if there is a big difference overall in gold achieved.

[Gully]

Exp and Gold values are calculated when the 3 quests are generated.

Once you enter the tavern quest values are calculated and will not change even if you equip/unequip armor

If you dont trust the system you can play without bonus and writing down how much you get and then the day after do the same with rune bonus. you should be able to see the difference over all

[Valkyra]

It seems i was wrong so i apologize.
The bonus is only in effect when new quests are being generated. Changing items does NOT change the rewards, as the bonus was generated with the old item equipped. To use a gold bonus for example, you need to equip the item/items and finish the current quest. The new generated quests will have the bonus applied. Unfortunately the bonus does not refresh in real time so if you dont have the gold/xp gear equipped when the quests are generated you will loose the bonus for that 1st quest.
You can try the suggestions that BMWGuinness and Gully gave if you dont trust the system.

Later edit:
Rhythmite you were talking about the 10% you can calculate (1,263,788 => 1,390,166 - +9,99%). That is only from the ring enchant (The Grave Robber's Prayer spell) and not from any rune bonus because that bonus is already applied to the reward ammount if you equiped the rune bonus gear before the quests were generated. Same thing with the XP bonus, you will get +10% after the quest is finished from the hat enchant (Adventurer's Archaeological Aura spell).

[rvm1975]

That's pretty much what I've been doing. Equip bonus gear prior to doing first quest

for the bonuses on 1st quest equip required items before server reset

[Bix]

Exp and Gold values are calculated when the 3 quests are generated.

Sorry for the thread necromancy but I've been searching for an official answer about this and couldn't find one.

This is really annoying, because with random XP/Gold rewards for quests, you cannot really realize if the bonus is really applied or not. Like some have suggested here, maybe writing down the whole XP/Gold gain on one day, but still, you are getting random rewards on quests so it's not precise calculation.

I've also noted the following: you have a tooltip when you hover your mouse on the rewards of a quest. It says which rune bonus is applied, and it changes that indicated bonus value if you switch your gear, but without adapting the indicated reward! This is really confusing.



after switching to XP gear:


Devs should update that tooltip and keep the fixed value used at the generation time of the quest, as long as switching to your Gold/Xp stuff doesn't change that value after the quest generation.

On a side note, I confirm that helm/ring enchants (for XP/gold 10%) bonuses are applied *at the quest completion* and are clearly mentioned in the rewarded XP and gold.


(this is precisely 10% bonus on announced XP above)

Completing another quest, with or without XP runed objects, but with removing the XP-bonus-enchanted helm, gives the exact amount of XP mentioned in the quest info.

[mar21]

The texts are all dependent on your current self, so if the quest is old then the tooltips wont match (bonuses speaking)...

The quests itself do not have any clue about bonuses ... so it is not possible to tell if something changed or not



// Edit
Yes, the xp/gold/item enchantments do apply on quest end. That is a know fact already