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    [Data Collection] Underworld Data

    Hi everyone,
    I'm posting here a very simple idea to understand better how works maths behind Underworld and so how to use the best of it: collect data!

    In order to do this, I ask the community to help me collect values of everything we can get and do about this new update.

    This is a repost from the FR forum, translated by myself: http://forum.sfgame.fr/showthread.php?t=14976

    Note: The Souls capacity depends on more than one factor, to be sinpliest I will ignore it.

    This data will be extremely useful, the most of the units upgrades part. After thinking about what we should study further about the Underworld I have found 3 ideas:
    -Profitability of upgrading units, caus it cost souls to get souls, and if you pay more than you earn that's pointless...
    -Gold earning depending on your level and the level or your gold mine, it's the same idea as "XP Evolution" using academy.
    -Bonuses from Room for Gladiator Trainer depending on it's level and you character's level. I'm not sure about this one, still an idea.
    I don't promise at all I will run these studies, but if one day I want to... I will need the basic data that we will collect here!

    Last Update: 21/Nov./17 03:55 PM [V.2.2.3]

    NEWS:
    -> Update V.2.2.3 are live on both forums!
    -> No more projects currently.

    CHANGELOG:
    -V.1 : Basic Version
    -V.2.0 : Complete changes about buildings Goblin / Troll / Keeper and Units Goblins / Trolls / Keeper | Adding "Unit Upgrades"
    -V.2.0.1 : Adding "NEWS" and "CHANGELOG"
    -V.2.1 : More infos about "Attack Booty"
    -V.2.2.1 : More infos about "Goblins Units"
    -V.2.2.2 : More infos about "Trolls Units"
    -V.2.2.3 : More infos about "Keeper Unit"

    Backups:


    Missing Data:


    Construction Duration:


    Heart of Darkness:


    Underworld Gate:


    Soul Extractor:


    Torture Chamber:


    Gladiator Trainer:


    Gold Pit:


    Time Machine:

    __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________

    Goblin Pit:


    Troll Block:


    Keeper:


    Unit Upgrades:


    RECAP: Unit costs will be send in an additive view. The calculated cost for a building and unit upgrades will be the sum of this upgrade building and unit costs AND the costs of every previous upgrades.
    Example: Building Level 3 / Upgrade level 2 = Building 1 + Building 2 + Building 3 + Upgrade 1 + Upgrade 2.
    So this way you will see different cost values for same level and stats of some units: it is NORMAL!
    Example: Keeper Level 20 will have different costs depending on you obtained it with: Building 2 | Upgrade 5 OR Building 3 | Upgrade 0
    So take your time reading the values, all of this calculations are made for the pure purpose of helping investment optimization

    Goblin Units:


    Troll Unit:


    Keeper Unit:


    Attack Booty:


    Don't hesitate to leave a "Thanks" if you like my work, it's motivating!
    -LucaBlack
    Last edited by LucaBlack; 22 November 2017, 04:01 AM.
    LucaBlack | s12.fr | lvl 267 | 371 mushrooms | ON for testings
    LucaBlack | w6.net | lvl 406 | 17716 mushrooms | ON
    LucaBlack | w17.net | lvl 184 | 345 mushrooms | ON for testings
    UnderTarget | s2.fr | lvl 143 | 0 mushrooms | ON

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    #2
    Same time like in fortress (without headquarters).

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      #3
      Not really, the combat ssytem are completely different. We have 10 buildings, 3 used to help your character in someway, and 6 for the fights and the soul collection and the core.

      Stop say this update are a recycling from the fortress, it's not at all. The only similar idea is the bulding management... It's as pointless as saying all management games are the same.
      LucaBlack | s12.fr | lvl 267 | 371 mushrooms | ON for testings
      LucaBlack | w6.net | lvl 406 | 17716 mushrooms | ON
      LucaBlack | w17.net | lvl 184 | 345 mushrooms | ON for testings
      UnderTarget | s2.fr | lvl 143 | 0 mushrooms | ON

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        #4
        Player Level 9: 415.83 souls. I just killed it 416 souls
        Player Level 10: 432 souls.
        Player Level 11: 448 souls.
        Last edited by Gashop; 27 October 2017, 01:15 PM.

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          #5
          heart of darkness:
          5k gold
          11k souls
          building time: 5 hours.

          goldpit:
          2k gold
          46 souls
          building time: 31 minutes
          income building level 1: 384.11 gold per hour. max gold:1368.

          goldpit:
          3k gold
          124 souls
          building time: 1hour 6 minutes
          income building level 2: 1368,22 gold per hour. max gold:5472.

          the next ones will take a while, it will be my Soul Extractor.
          Last edited by Gashop; 27 October 2017, 02:02 PM.

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            #6
            No need to send the gold income data, it depends too on your level so it will be different for almost everyone. We will need a full study about to really care, to be launched later... Maybe ^^
            LucaBlack | s12.fr | lvl 267 | 371 mushrooms | ON for testings
            LucaBlack | w6.net | lvl 406 | 17716 mushrooms | ON
            LucaBlack | w17.net | lvl 184 | 345 mushrooms | ON for testings
            UnderTarget | s2.fr | lvl 143 | 0 mushrooms | ON

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              #7
              I see you are missing data for low level players and I had to face them quite a few times, so here it is:

              Player Level 1 - 290 souls
              Player Level 2 - 306 souls
              Player Level 3 - 322 souls

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                #8
                Player Level 12: 463 souls.
                Player Level 13: 479 souls.
                Player Level 14: 495 souls.
                Player Level 15: 510 souls.
                Player Level 16: 526 souls.

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                  #9
                  Updated, thanks all keep going
                  LucaBlack | s12.fr | lvl 267 | 371 mushrooms | ON for testings
                  LucaBlack | w6.net | lvl 406 | 17716 mushrooms | ON
                  LucaBlack | w17.net | lvl 184 | 345 mushrooms | ON for testings
                  UnderTarget | s2.fr | lvl 143 | 0 mushrooms | ON

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                    #10
                    Updated. I comes to open the data for time machine, keeper and keeper unit!

                    Don't hesitate to leave a "Thanks" if you like my work, it's motivating!
                    Last edited by LucaBlack; 29 October 2017, 12:29 PM.
                    LucaBlack | s12.fr | lvl 267 | 371 mushrooms | ON for testings
                    LucaBlack | w6.net | lvl 406 | 17716 mushrooms | ON
                    LucaBlack | w17.net | lvl 184 | 345 mushrooms | ON for testings
                    UnderTarget | s2.fr | lvl 143 | 0 mushrooms | ON

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                      #11
                      Soul Extractor level 2 cost: 500 gold 462 souls

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                        #12
                        What about soul cap in torture chamber u didnt consider it a good data collect?
                        for example lvl 3 419 max soul/hero
                        Nice post good info btw

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                          #13
                          Soul Cap on torture chamber? You don't mean what I call "Attack Booty" that I record on the very last spoiler of the post?
                          LucaBlack | s12.fr | lvl 267 | 371 mushrooms | ON for testings
                          LucaBlack | w6.net | lvl 406 | 17716 mushrooms | ON
                          LucaBlack | w17.net | lvl 184 | 345 mushrooms | ON for testings
                          UnderTarget | s2.fr | lvl 143 | 0 mushrooms | ON

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by LucaBlack View Post
                            Soul Cap on torture chamber? You don't mean what I call "Attack Booty" that I record on the very last spoiler of the post?
                            No i say that if u fight an enemy lvl 300 and he give u 10000 soul with bonus 30% according with the write u should get 10419 or 10000+(419x3) not sure with what it exactly mean

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                              #15
                              If I attack a level 8 player and if I have to attack a level 8 or higher player I earn 400 Souls, with a level 3 torture chamber it's 400*1.3=520
                              LucaBlack | s12.fr | lvl 267 | 371 mushrooms | ON for testings
                              LucaBlack | w6.net | lvl 406 | 17716 mushrooms | ON
                              LucaBlack | w17.net | lvl 184 | 345 mushrooms | ON for testings
                              UnderTarget | s2.fr | lvl 143 | 0 mushrooms | ON

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