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Borb 23rd December 2015 08:13 PM

Question about Fortress
 
Just one little question about fotress mechanics - how exactly are oponents chosen in fortress ? My question is, wheter honor in fortress matters during attacks - because if it does, it can be easily abused. Like .. wheter rank 100 in fortress could attack rank 5000 in fortress.

Valkyra 23rd December 2015 08:27 PM

Im guessing here but it seems like the fortress opponents are chosen based on your fortress upgrade points and NOT the honor points... just like in the arena.

TheDinorhino 23rd December 2015 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Valkyra (Post 41891)
Im guessing here but it seems like the fortress opponents are chosen based on your fortress upgrade points and NOT the honor points... just like in the arena.

Probably true as the other day my level 95 mage attacked a level 190 in the fortress.

Maharg 24th December 2015 02:22 PM

Following the update the system appears to have switched from one based solely on fortress upgrade level to one based on honour ranking. This is a bit tough on those with low upgrade who shot up the ranking by favouring military buildup!

My character on w1 had reached rank 600 ish before the update and regularly got targets with rank over 1,000. Now all his targets are also around 600 - like the arena.

Borb 2nd January 2016 02:14 PM

If its based on honor and rank, then its Really Really bad system and it can be easily abused - and it also encourage people Not to attack anyone.
Why ? Because if you do not attack, you will have very low rank - and naturally high ranked people wont be able to attack you, thus you will safe more resources than you would get from attacking. Thatīs not really nice ..

bobo baggins 2nd January 2016 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Borb (Post 41974)
If its based on honor and rank, then its Really Really bad system and it can be easily abused - and it also encourage people Not to attack anyone.
Why ? Because if you do not attack, you will have very low rank - and naturally high ranked people wont be able to attack you, thus you will safe more resources than you would get from attacking. Thatīs not really nice ..

I think it is good the arena is the same way if you want to keep a lower ranking you don't attack anyone there as well. no one complains about that.

for me I don't attack anyone I only do fortress so I can get exp and gems unfortunately I have to level everything to do the parts I want. That doesn't mean I have to attack others or move up in rank in the fortress HoF.

Borb 2nd January 2016 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bobo baggins (Post 41976)
I think it is good the arena is the same way if you want to keep a lower ranking you don't attack anyone there as well. no one complains about that.

for me I don't attack anyone I only do fortress so I can get exp and gems unfortunately I have to level everything to do the parts I want. That doesn't mean I have to attack others or move up in rank in the fortress HoF.

Thatīs just wrong.As i said, Arena and Fortress is something entirely different, since losing in arena doesnt really mean anything besides drop in rank, but losing battle in fortress is devastating.
The way it is, attacking other players is detrimental for growth of fortress, since it increases rank = more attacks from high ranked enemies.
And what is worse - you dont lose honor upon losing a battle in fortress = you will remain high ranked forever.

It should be based on upgrades of fortress, not honor - because otherwise, people will abuse it and gain the benefit of not attacking anyone and remaining on low level ranks.

bobo baggins 2nd January 2016 06:59 PM

Well tbh there are not many players near the top if any that are not all around the same upgrades because if there was one that wasn't the rest would go after him/her as easy pickings. also if the fortress was 3 lvls or more less the attacker gets nothing.

I say leave it as an honor based attack system.


oh by the way you also lose gold in arena. yeah still not as much as resources in fortress but if u get spam attacked and or have a lot of ppl going after you it can hurt a lot; and considering other then gems and exp from fortress doesn't help your toon one bit I say arena is the bigger deal.

Borb 2nd January 2016 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bobo baggins (Post 41980)
Well tbh there are not many players near the top if any that are not all around the same upgrades because if there was one that wasn't the rest would go after him/her as easy pickings. also if the fortress was 3 lvls or more less the attacker gets nothing.

I say leave it as an honor based attack system.


oh by the way you also lose gold in arena. yeah still not as much as resources in fortress but if u get spam attacked and or have a lot of ppl going after you it can hurt a lot; and considering other then gems and exp from fortress doesn't help your toon one bit I say arena is the bigger deal.

Umm not many people near top ? I dont use mushrooms in fortress and i am ranked top 20.
Also difference of 3 lvls mean nothing, as moving from lets say fortress 13 to lvl 14 takes tons of time.
And fortress is like a game within a game, and lot of people play just fortress to enjoy it - unlike arena.And to actually compare Arena with a fortress is a pure joke - in fortress, you lose 10% resources + what u have in mines.But in Arena, you lose ... almost Nothing.In Arena, you would have to lose like 100x times to lose Gold worth of + 1 stat.Thatīs a just a joke.

Fortress should be based on Fortress Upgrade, nothing more, nothing less. Otherwise people will abuse the system and it would be unfair to active people that likes attacking - since 1 win attack give + 1 honor, and its easy to amass like 20-50 honor a day if one is active.

bobo baggins 2nd January 2016 07:14 PM

Well why should those who just want better mines and academy suffer because some one wants the system changed. another way to compare the 2 is in arena you move up to high in ranking others will knock you back down. well from what I am hearing same is happening in fortress seems to me system works fine it the price ppl pay for getting ranked higher then they should be.


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