Easter Update - Discussion Thread

[Gully]

Underworld hof doesnt update if i improve my keeper and overcome an opponent with same honor.

Tested w/ a guild mate.

[Apollo]

Originally Posted by Leander

Thanks for your in-depth feedback!

A dungeon should have a progressive difficulty level. Some floors were more than hard but the next floors were too easy again. As it was not balanced and players were stuck for too long we decided to change that.

I noticed that with the high amount of HP, but even then the boss is only level 400. That's the same level as Jan in dungeon 13 (light).

IN MY OPINION, in a first hand, the easiest way to overcome this issue (stats vs not being stuck) is to implement not one dungeon but a few instead (let's say 9 or 10). This way dungeons would have the progressive difficulty level required and it could be done in a way that players would not be stuck too much time (since there'd be another dungeons to try).

About the nerfs, I agree with you (specially about shadow easteros 10), but the nerf was way too big. That's it. I agree with the nerf, but not with the values.

As a veteran player (over 8 years playing SFGame), I want nothing but to help to improve this game so that players can continue to be interested and motivated to play for as many years as possible!
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EDIT - Something that absolutely needs a nerf are the new guild raids. And give it a reward, please (something to pay atention for the upcoming guild update)

[Eggman95]

Originally Posted by KO771

Liebe Spielerinnen und Spieler,

nach und nach werden die ersten Bugfixes aufgespielt, es folgt gleich aber noch eine Änderung im Spielsystem:

Der Punkt
Beim Verkauf, Zerlegung oder bei der Zerstörung (Edelstein Gewinnung) von Gegenständen bekommt man ab jetzt den Großteil der Schmiede-Ressourcen zurück
gilt nicht (mehr) für Gegenstände, die "durchs Klo gespült wurden", sprich keinen Goldverkaufspreis mehr haben. Die normalen Werte bei einer Zerlegung gibt es aber weiterhin (wie vor dem Osterupdate).

Eine entsprechende Anzeige (bzw. der Wegfall der Ressourcenrückgabe bei diesen Gegenständen) folgt noch zeitnah.

Lieben Gruß
Euer KO771

(source: https://forum.sfgame.de/showthread.p...644#post821644)

Roughly translated:

"Dear players,

a few bugfixes will be added, but there will be another change in the game system:

When selling, dismantling or destroying (gemstone mining) items, you now get back the bulk of blacksmith resources
exept for items that have been "flushed through the toilet", ie have no gold sales price more. Those items still give their normal ressource if dismantled.

[...]

Your KO771"

So items that wont give gold if sold, wont give the metal and crystals back.
So if you through an item in the toilett, you will lose all invested ressources.

the freshly changed blacksmith just got crippled.



both items were upgraded 5 times, my ring was a drop in the shadowworld and because of that, it will give me no res back.

[Gully]

Originally Posted by Eggman95

both items were upgraded 5 times, my ring was a drop in the shadowworld and because of that, it will give me no res back.

Do I regain resources if I upgrade an item after dropping it in the wc?
Beacause values are shown.

[Strider]

Originally Posted by Eggman95

(source: https://forum.sfgame.de/showthread.p...644#post821644)

Roughly translated:


So items that wont give gold if sold, wont give the metal and crystals back.
So if you through an item in the toilett, you will lose all invested ressources.

the freshly changed blacksmith just got crippled.


both items were upgraded 5 times, my ring was a drop in the shadowworld and because of that, it will give me no res back.

This is devastating!

[Eggman95]

Originally Posted by Gully

Do I regain resources if I upgrade an item after dropping it in the wc?
Beacause values are shown.

No, you can see the values because your client still has version 1273, with version 1274 they will be gone/hidden. So at a moment it is just a "display bug". The res are displayed but you wont get them.

[MedusasSnakes]

Originally Posted by Leander

Thanks for your in-depth feedback!

A dungeon should have a progressive difficulty level. Some floors were more than hard but the next floors were too easy again. As it was not balanced and players were stuck for too long we decided to change that.

I'm THRILLED about that - I was stuck on 546 twister for 4 months and getting cranky about it!

[bobo baggins]

My thoughts ( remember this is my opinion only) new character a waste for older players who don't want to start a new toon.

pets bonuses are a nice thing but not a fan of how to get said bonuses.

selling items we enchanted and getting some resources back is nice (thumbs up)

dungeons I am always a fan of new dungeons. but not a fan of the theme.

[Strider]

Originally Posted by Eggman95

(source: https://forum.sfgame.de/showthread.p...644#post821644)

Roughly translated:


So items that wont give gold if sold, wont give the metal and crystals back.
So if you through an item in the toilett, you will lose all invested ressources.

the freshly changed blacksmith just got crippled.



both items were upgraded 5 times, my ring was a drop in the shadowworld and because of that, it will give me no res back.

Leander,

I would request that this be looked at. Shadow Dungeons give items for other classes, and were not thrown in the toilet. I have upgraded some of these items with resources, and should be able to recoup those resources. Can you please speak with the devs on this matter, as its extremely unfair with a great new feature.

Thank you.

[sharshooter]

Originally Posted by BMWGuinness

Leander,

I would request that this be looked at. Shadow Dungeons give items for other classes, and were not thrown in the toilet. I have upgraded some of these items with resources, and should be able to recoup those resources. Can you please speak with the devs on this matter, as its extremely unfair with a great new feature.

Thank you.

BMG let me explain you why they change it. If you are playing warrior your upgrade cost for weapon is half of mag/scout. So if you upgrade x20 times weapon with gem and flush it in WC you will get weapon for mag/scout (100% chance) when you "remover gem"so you will get twice resources you have invested (you can repeat it infinite number of times). So basically Warriors could make millions resources and they did.

That's why they fixed it by removing bonus from flushed items. So be glad otherwise your warriors on server would have permanent x20 all items on them and their tower companions.

Proof (on normal servers and KO said they won't rollback/ban etc):



And now tell me do you still think it's extremely unfair ?