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Old 8th September 2017, 10:41 PM
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Because it was in the past, the curve of my first study are no longer reflecting the reality. It was before when there was XP brakes... Devs removed them if I remember well enough... When the fortress was introduced. Of course, now, there is no more drops and XP just increase from level 1 to 393.

Point of history, the first time I heard about the XP brakes was with a French study made in 2009 or 2010. The guy used quests XP to trace his curve, and used thousands of values to be accurate. The curve are just right here:

I can translate for you it's written: daily progression in millions of XP for 100 thirst, no mount, full XP quests, without any scrapbook/guild bonuses.

But again, the XP brakes exist no more uh ^^

Now let's talk about the present.
And if you really want to see, curve that I havn't published here caus the study about was quickly obvious and no one asked:

/!\ Big Screen /!\


This is the amount of XP you earn with a level 1 academy for different levels now.
And no need to tell about, I have proven that academy XP is directly linked to quests -and also arena- XP, so there is no problem about.
Well, a lot of values are missing but it's clear... A basic exponential as I said. So yes the devs told it plus my study proven it and everyone around he FR community agreed with that, there is no doubt possible ^^

I don't understand how you made your curve but I insist to say there is a problem on it...


I think your problem can be statistic. You said you used quests XP to build up your curve. But quests XP are A LOT... What's the word... Let's say the reward move a lot. To be accurate you'll need easy thousands of quests for every level (end of cours without changing any bonus). And doing this alone well, good luck 3:
And of course for every level you have to take your values with the same XP bonuses too... So good luck again, lol.

Plus you said you're using academy XP. But academy XP depends not only on your level... but too on the level of the academy.

Plus you said you're using academy XP AND quests XP. That makes a huge mistake. Caus quesks XP change with your XP bonuses when academy XP don't care and only varies with your level. Same with arena XP, through.

So if you daily record all the XP earning you can get, cumulate them all and put the result on your curve... The mistake become really massive. That could explain why your curve goes up and down all the time.
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Old 9th September 2017, 12:34 AM
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Why do you assume that exp from quests drops same like exp from academy?
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Old 9th September 2017, 11:34 AM
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It's simple:
-From level 1 to 393, for every level up you earn more XP, the devs themselves said it, the FR community agreed with that and it's exactly the same with academy and arena. Not so hard to observe because for every level up you need a lot more XP, or the time needed to level up increase slower. So you earn more XP.
-After level 393, for every level up you earn less XP, It's observed since the first time people have reached this high levels (even before the remove of XP brakes) and continues today... Again, same with academy and XP;
-If you calculate how much time you need to level up with a certain level of your academy, for higher levels it will be always longer, same with quests and arena.

For me that's enough; I havn't studied XP in quests and in academy together because I will need thousands of values to get accurate numbers about the quests. And the real fact of why I study the academy it's exactly because every value are accurate, so one value for every level are enough.
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Old 9th September 2017, 01:15 PM
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Old 9th September 2017, 03:03 PM
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Lvld up...lvl 456 xp academy lvl 20: 340 379
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Old 11th September 2017, 01:25 AM
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Another one
Lvl457-academy lvl 20=337597xp ph
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Old 12th September 2017, 09:56 AM
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My formula for total exp (200% Guild, 98% SA, 20lvl academy, 10 attacks, wheel, 320 thirst, 50% mount):

Experience[10^6]=-14.25 + e^(0.00685*LvL+2.65712)

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If you are below 394 please check if you earn around that amount.

Parameter Estimates
Variable DF Parameter Standard t*Value Pr*>*|t|
Estimate Error
Intercept 1 2,65712 0,11363 23.38 <.0001
LvL 1 0,00685 0,00033296 20.56 <.0001
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Old 12th September 2017, 04:41 PM
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Nice curve!
The different bonuses are additive, so you better remove them and ask people for values without bonus. That would be easier for everyone when comparing.

Sorry guys i'm really busy IRL, but I will sure keep this study on. Continue giving your values, the updates of my curve will just be slow
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Old 12th September 2017, 05:26 PM
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Nice curve!
The different bonuses are additive, so you better remove them and ask people for values without bonus. That would be easier for everyone when comparing.

Sorry guys i'm really busy IRL, but I will sure keep this study on. Continue giving your values, the updates of my curve will just be slow
Actually I have summarized data so I don't know how much is from thirst, how much from attacks, how much from wheel etc. It is impossible to extract this information right now.

I have another idea why we just don't collect data from arena attack? If all experience source behave same we can fit curve for it from 1-393 and 394-500.
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Old 14th September 2017, 11:44 AM
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Lvl458-academy lvl 20=334840xp ph
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