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Old 18th December 2018, 03:40 PM
slasker slasker is offline
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Default gem mine and gold pit strategy

So - with the uncapped gem mine and gold pit, what is the best strategy going forward? I mean, it does not make sense to just upgrade the mine like forever, and never get any gem :-). Same thing for the gold pit (apart from the fact, that it takes 3+ years to reach level 225). Has anybody made some calculus on what the smartest thing to do?
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Old 18th December 2018, 06:35 PM
Arturu Arturu is offline
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I think people first need to upgrade the mines and see differences to make some canculations.
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Old 18th December 2018, 08:14 PM
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Yeah - it may be people have to check. I just figured, someone already know the formula for what it gives. At least the gold pit? It would be good to have those. Like gold as a function of char level and pit level. And gem bonus and gem cost as function of char level and pit level (and possibly excavation time, if that changes)
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Old 19th December 2018, 07:26 AM
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The gem formula is clear:

lvl char*0.36*[1+0.15*(gem mine lvl-1)]+knights/3

This is for big primary stat gems. For black gems divide by 2 and add 30%
I think the final number can have 15% deviation.

My plans are to finish upgrading gem mine 22, then search for the two keys for the new dungeon, then continue upgrading to level 25. Then search for gems till I upgrade all my current gems. After that I will probably go for 5-10 straight gem mine upgrades followed by a gem search.
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Old 19th December 2018, 08:09 AM
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TY - Sersemina.
It may be a good strategy to do so, upgrade gem mine and take advantage of the better gems.
Further to the increase in stat, it is also interesting to understand how much you get for selling the gems you cannot use. This can be used for permanent stat increase :-P.
So I am also trying to understand whether there is a change in the time it takes to dig a gem (currently 6,5 hours with the full fortress built) as well as the formula for the value of the gems.

This latter part is probably much more straightforward for the gold pit. On one side, you can choose to spend the 162 million souls and upgrade the gold pit for 14+ days OR just use the gold pit for getting your gold.
Just a simple comparison: when do we have the break-even between sticking to gold pit 15 and harvest gold, vs upgrading to lvl 16 - or 17 or 225. Building to level 225 will take 3 years, so for sure the break-even point will be much further out into the future; and nothing to really target for.
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Old 4th January 2019, 12:03 AM
tinc tinc is offline
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My fortress isn't finished yet, so I only have experience with the gold pit.
Each upgrade takes 15 days.
The amortization on charlevel 400 is about 250 days after completion of the upgrades.
Btw the upgrade to stage 255 would need almost 9 years.
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