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Old 30th June 2010, 11:06 AM
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I got stunned when i review these fight!

My Status:
Str: 51 Defense: 25
Dex: 104
Int: 38 Resistence: 19
Con: 92
Luck: 94 Crit Hit: 23.5%
Weapon: 18-22 (~20) Damage: 205-251

The other guy status,

Str: 50 Defense: 24
Dex: 50 Evation: 24
Int: 138
Con: 71
Luck: 57 Crit hit: 13%
Weapon: 22-68 (~45) Damage: 330-1020

Well, the fight start with my atk.

First round!
i've hit by 194
he hit by 1839

Second round!
I've hit by 265
he hit by 1668

Third Round!
I've hit by 323
he hit by 1050

My Question is ... how can these guy, with the same lvl then i, can give 2 crits with only 57 luck!?


If the status 'rent that diferent, he isn't more powerful then me... why my hit's are under my damage base! when the 3 hits he gave me 're all above his damage base!

well, i dont get it ...or i'm just unlucky.
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Old 30th June 2010, 11:41 AM
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Was he a mage? The damage of his weapon is twice as high as yours and his intelligence is also high...a mage does damage with intelligence and his weapon.

Besides, a low luck % does not mean that he won´t have critical hits...maybe he was really lucky.
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Old 30th June 2010, 12:08 PM
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you're right! he is a mage, and the damage of his weapon is twice as high as mine! But the inteligence it's no that much high! So why is he hitting me 4 times more damage then the damage i do? These doesn't even make sense...

well a 13% crit change, for me, means that 13 on 100 hits 're critical. or 1.3 on 10 hits 're critical (0.39 on 3 hits 're critical ). how can he give me 2 on 3 hits critical? that's 66% ... not 13...

So what's the point of playing with other classes!? let's all be mages and just increase int! These is the 10th match i've made with a mage, and 10/10 matches i've lost! and all of them we've similar status to me. i've lost a match with a mage with lower status then me ... Besides, i've increased my resistence to see if i can dodge/evade/block any mage skill! but till now? nothnig happen! 3/4 hits and i'm out! and i've 4300 HP!

dont really get it...
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Old 30th June 2010, 02:25 PM
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Resistance doesn't really help much, and I think mages ignore armor.
And the critical hit thing is not as you describe it at all. Every hit has x% chance of being critical. So if someone's extremely lucky, they could have 40 critical hits in a row
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Old 30th June 2010, 02:38 PM
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Phoneman's right on. Every hit has a percentage. It's not unusual at all to have 2 out of 3, you just got unlucky.

At the early levels, mages that have found a decent weapon are deadly. It seems to even out as you level up, and soon a mage's lack of hp will end up hurting more and more.

I'm not certain that you two are a great matchup, anyway. It looks like you're going to have about 2.5 times the number of hp (depending on what your levels are), and he'll do 3 times the damage. Over the long term you'll probably lose more than you win until you either do more damage or have more hp.
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Old 30th June 2010, 02:50 PM
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even that doesn't make sense .... if the resistence doesn't count for nothing what are my changes to avoid the mage skills? none?

in resume!
mages make high damage! don't miss, with a little careful have enought hit points to survive anyfight, it is very very unusual to get their skills blocked, ignore opponent armor.

So what's the point of playing with other classes?

Btw my hit points: 4168
his hit points: 1562
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These is trully unbalanced ...
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Old 30th June 2010, 03:05 PM
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My Status: [Lv10 Ranger]
Str: 51 Defense: 25
Dex: 104
Int: 38 Resistence: 19
Con: 92
Luck: 94 Crit Hit: 23.5%
Weapon: 18-22 (~20) Damage: 205-251

The other guy status, [Lv10 Mage]

Str: 50 Defense: 24
Dex: 50 Evation: 24
Int: 138
Con: 71
Luck: 57 Crit hit: 13%
Weapon: 22-68 (~45) Damage: 330-1020

Well, the fight start with my atk.

First round!
i've hit by 194 [Normal Hit - white hit]
he hit by 1839 [Critical Hit - Red Hit]

Second round!
I've hit by 265[Normal Hit - white hit]
he hit by 1668[Normal Hit - white hit]

Third Round!
I've hit by 323[Normal Hit - white hit]
he hit by 1050[Normal Hit - white hit]
Lv13 mage!
Str 90 Def 45
Dex 70
Int 186 Damage 686 - 882
Con 87 Hit points: 2436
Luck 84 Crit hit: 16.15%
Weapon : 35-45 (~40)

The mage start the fight!

1st round
Crit hit (1666 damage RED HIT) MAGE HIT
Normal hit (196 damage White HIT) Ranger Hit

2nd round
Normal hit (1206 damage white Hit) MAGE HIT
Crit Hit (532 damage Red Hit) Ranger Hit

3rd round
Normal hit (1590 damage white hit) MAGE HIT
DEAD!


How can a Lv10 Mage with 138 Int hit me like a Lv13 mage with 186 Int!


well i make my point clear ...these is not normal ...

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Old 30th June 2010, 08:47 PM
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Yes - it's normal. You have nearly 3 times as many hitpoints.

Yes, mage's do a lot of damage. They also take a lot of damage. They have a max armor of 10% (which also doesn't reduce damage from another mage).

Evade (and block for warriors) only work against physical attacks: scouts and warriors. You won't be able to evade a mage. On the other hand, a mage has no potential to block or evade any attacks so it really is a wash.

The difference between the two mage builds that you posted is the weapon they are using. If you look I'm sure you'll find that the average damage of the staff (just the weapon, not the damage reported when equipped) is higher for the first mage.

Looking further - your weapon's average damage is ~20. That is probably your problem. If you look around, many scouts around level 10 have weapons doing average damage of 30. If you find one of those, then you're doing closer to ~330 total damage.

You just aren't strong enough yet to take on some of these mages. That is most definitely normal, and the way things work for everyone.

I play a mage on the US server and really enjoy it. But it isn't any easier than other classes.
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Old 9th October 2010, 09:23 AM
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well a 13% crit change, for me, means that 13 on 100 hits 're critical. or 1.3 on 10 hits 're critical (0.39 on 3 hits 're critical ). how can he give me 2 on 3 hits critical? that's 66% ... not 13...
Like you sed its chance , chance isn't something 1 from 10 or 10 from 10 , yes you may compare it if its 10/10 but its still chance to hit..
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Old 16th April 2013, 04:14 PM
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I had a fight in the arena it was really weird im a mage with stats as:
160 strenght
dexterity 124
intelligence 208
constitution 152
luck 144
my wepeon hits 34-102 and my armor is 160
total damage 751-2254 and 5472 hp
the other guys(ranger) stats are
strenght 77
sexterity 267
intelligence 43
constitution 168
luck 55
he's wepeon damage is 24-52 and 330 defence
total damage 689-1492 and 10880 hp

he already won like 3 times...(sorry for my bad english)
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